This is part 2 of my conversation with Dr. Leidy Klotz, a behavioral scientist and engineering professor at the University of Virginia who studies how and why humans design. He is the author of Subtract: The Untapped Science of Less and In a Good Place: How the Spaces Where We Live, Work, and Play Can Help Us Thrive.
Check out part 1 here if you haven’t already.
In this second part of our conversation, we talk about:
Leidy’s experience of learning the history of Memorial Gym at UVA as a source of beauty
Exercising agency within constrained physical spaces
Why we gravitate toward trivial decisions over complex, high-impact ones
The value of a “beauty audit” for noticing what we love in our spaces
How thoughtful environmental design fosters connection and belonging
Collective agency in workspaces
The legacy of “Josie’s Way”
Practical steps listeners can take to put themselves “in a good place”
To learn more about Leidy Klotz’s work, you can find him at:
https://leidyklotz.com/
Books and resources mentioned:
Subtract: The Untapped Science of Less (by Leidy Klotz)
In a Good Place: How the Spaces Where We Live, Work, and Play Can Help Us Thrive (by Leidy Klotz)
This season of the podcast is sponsored by the John Templeton Foundation.










